Hadn't noticed that but it's not my daily driver. I was just pleased when I first got them that the road noise on pavement didn't seem to have changed.
Nokian Outpost APT vs. Falken Wildpeak A/T trail (vs. Geolandar G015)
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My favorite Willie Nelson song. A solo flash mob. The Nokias and the Falkens might do a better job keeping these posts on the Subaru Crosstreks focused pavement than our music...but all of us have the ability to careen a little off the straight and narrow.
Does anyone know where the video was filmed? Looks familiar...
Austin city park is what I heard. I used to sing "Rainbow Connection" to my kids and grand kids. The two year old has learned from the other children to request that my singing be directed to one song..."Far, far away" but I've never known the words. My daughters always thought it interesting and contrary that I liked the song while I spent my time on the accuracy of physics teaching.
Not what I was thinking of but thanks! Post YT links to your renditions...
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I have the Wildpeak’s on my 21 Crosstrek sport. The car feels better planted to the road in every condition. My 14 Crosstrek and my 16 Forester came with the Yokohama’s as did the 21. In the rain all cars would hydroplane very bad, to the point of being scary. I hated those tires! Put only 5,000 miles on the 21 before pulling them off. The Forester had them on for 15,000 miles before putting Coopers vision of Wildpeak trails on it. Total confedence now!
oh, by the way if anyone wants a set of Yokohama stock tires and is in Northern Idaho hit me up…….
oh, by the way if anyone wants a set of Yokohama stock tires and is in Northern Idaho hit me up…….
Which ones, the Discoverer AT3 4S? How are they w.r.t. the Wildpeaks?
Good ol' Canadian boy.
Went with Widlpeaks after all. Was really on the fence with the Outpost APTs (they're much lighter), but the very few reviews I've found complained about a severe growl/noise even at moderate speeds. My objective was to have a more robust tire for forest roads, with a "rugged" look yet as little road noise as possible.
Given I took a few dB measures over a specific highway stretch at a specific speed with the Geolandars, I'll soon compare with the Falkens. Likewise for MPGs, since I've monitored them on my 2019.
Subjective impressions: more comfy of a ride (though the revised 2022 suspension could be the reason), smoother, more grip.
Given I took a few dB measures over a specific highway stretch at a specific speed with the Geolandars, I'll soon compare with the Falkens. Likewise for MPGs, since I've monitored them on my 2019.
Subjective impressions: more comfy of a ride (though the revised 2022 suspension could be the reason), smoother, more grip.
Yeah, I've been pretty much completely satisfied with the Wildpeaks. Didn't do any dB measurements, but if there's any noise increase over the OEMs it's minuscule, and MPG seems pretty much unchanged. And the car's performance on wet pavement and on gravel is much improved.
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I was on the fence between the Wildpeak AT Trail and Nitto Nomad Grappler. I like the Nitto truck tire line and eventually want the Trail Grapplers for my Jeep so I decided to give the Nomads a try. So far they look good, ride well, are no louder than stock that I can tell and grip better. Need to get more miles on them and really test them out, but so far I like em.
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Pictures please?
The Nitto is a direct response to the Wildpeak AT trails. A crossover beefy-looking semi-all-terrain tyre, under 30 lbs. An excellent option as well (didn't consider it as I was waiting for more reviews). Nomad Grappler | Nitto Tire ) @Vegaspilot, glad you enjoy them!
Did anyone measure the tread depth on the Wildpeaks? Just checked it (after 5 000 km) and I get 9-10/32s depending on the spot, while new they're supposed to be 11/32. Mind you, it's with a puny cheap poking depth meter, but still. Would be worrying if the tires shed 1/32 after such a short distance.
Will definitely be looking to a back-to-back comparison of the A/T trails with Nitto Nomad Grapplers. Seems to be a direct competitor with a similar pattern and same weight.
Will definitely be looking to a back-to-back comparison of the A/T trails with Nitto Nomad Grapplers. Seems to be a direct competitor with a similar pattern and same weight.
after having put almost 22k miles on the wildpeaks in all conditions on my sport and about 50k miles on two sets of GO19s on my previous crosstrek i will definitely buy another set of wildpeaks. yes, i like them that much
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Any follow-up impressions on the Nittos now that you've had them for a bit?
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Do you have a firmer impression of noise and MPGs now that you've had them for a while? Also, have you had a chance to run them in the snow yet?
@jimaco: They are tad nosier than OEMs. Measured on the same highway stretch at the same speed with a dBmeter app on a cell, within 1dB (as innacurate as this is, it does offer somewhat of a comparison metric). One feature that I noticed is that the worse (grooved or old or in the process of being re-surfaced) the asphalt is, the worse the noise increase with respect to the Geolandars. When driving on a new silky baby-butt smooth new road, there is no tread noise whatsoever.
Gas mileage - comparing to my 2019 fuel records, which I've had on stock tires, I would roughly estimate a <0.5l/100 km or 2mpg hit.
Winter traction - no idea. I swapped them for Nokian R5s before the first snow. The Wildpeaks are "snowflake" rated, and will definitely be better than OEM Geolandars, but they're far from being a winter tire. As a side note, there is increasing evidence, and discussion in Canada, that this rating (self-awared by the industry with little to no oversight) isn't much of a guarantee of good winter performance. It only testsbraking in light snow acceleration on packed snow - no requirements w.r.t handling, cold weather grip, latereral grip, ice traction, slush evacuation, etc. So much that the EU is introducing an "ice grip" symbol, and putting mandatory universal performance metrics on their labels (which already include, for example, the noise levels in dB).
That having been said, YMMV. For those seeing occasional slush and light snow, IMHO the Wildpeaks will be sufficient heaps better than stock tyres. For those shoveling 6 months a year, nothing beats a true winter tire.
PS: My Wildpeaks are in 215/65R17. 5mm taller, speedo right on, 5 mm narrower.
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Gas mileage - comparing to my 2019 fuel records, which I've had on stock tires, I would roughly estimate a <0.5l/100 km or 2mpg hit.
Winter traction - no idea. I swapped them for Nokian R5s before the first snow. The Wildpeaks are "snowflake" rated, and will definitely be better than OEM Geolandars, but they're far from being a winter tire. As a side note, there is increasing evidence, and discussion in Canada, that this rating (self-awared by the industry with little to no oversight) isn't much of a guarantee of good winter performance. It only tests
That having been said, YMMV. For those seeing occasional slush and light snow, IMHO the Wildpeaks will be sufficient heaps better than stock tyres. For those shoveling 6 months a year, nothing beats a true winter tire.
PS: My Wildpeaks are in 215/65R17. 5mm taller, speedo right on, 5 mm narrower.
Edited. Thanks @AM407
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