I have a 2017 Crosstrek With eyesight, I want to know if anyone have ever tint the front windshield with the eyesight? And if tint did the eyesight still work normally.
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Honestly I agree with you I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I could be wrong and he can pull up the data and it doesn't function 100%. At that point I'll admit defeat. All I can bring to table now is that since I've had the tint installed I've already been in a number of situations, night mostly. Hell I even for the fun of it drove out of Denver last night where there's no lighting on the highways. Where it worked fine and never did turn off (automatic braking, LDA, collision detection, and lane keep with cruise on) Everytime I'm behind someone and they turn into somewhere it activates, lol which idk about you guys but is quite annoying but safe of course 😜
Honestly I agree with you I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I could be wrong and he can pull up the data and it doesn't function 100%. At that point I'll admit defeat. All I can bring to table now is that since I've had the tint installed I've already been in a number of situations, night mostly. Hell I even for the fun of it drove out of Denver last night where there's no lighting on the highways. Where it worked fine and never did turn off (automatic braking, LDA, collision detection, and lane keep with cruise on) Everytime I'm behind someone and they turn into somewhere it activates, lol which idk about you guys but is quite annoying but safe of course 😜
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Of course everyone has their preferences but honestly I've done this to all my cars for the past 8 years and have never been in a accident I've been rear ended but that's not my fault I also live in downtown Denver so tons of pedestrians everywhere. The tint never really bothers me.
Yeah, and weird that he says he has a Legacy and is posting on a Crosstrek forum. Doesn't add up...
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You know eyesight works the same on all Subarus right! I'm just trying to help, plus I was going to get a Crosstrek but didn't really work out in the end. been going through these forms for awhile now just to see if I could get some questions answered before I made a purchase. Just seen how so many was wondering about this and I feel I could possibly provide some closure on those interested in tinting their subi
One more friendly Moderator reminder about our forum's rules against getting personal.
I don't have any skin in this game, no interest in a tinted window, but agree with those who would like to see the data.
One tint installer, Carmel Tints (Indianapolis), has a lengthy list of vehicles where tints may cause problems with careful statements about each. It's statement on tinting Subaru Eyesight equipped windows with an "eyebrow" strip near the top is attached below:
I haven't investigated if other tint installers agree and apparently the person posting knows of some that will install tint on Subaru Eyesight equipped vehicles although the installation will disagree with the Subaru recommendations or are willing to install if owners request:
The Carmel Tint statement includes the following:
"Subaru Eyesight Warning
Subaru Eyesight System -
Our Position
Subaru's Warning to Owners (click on to enlarge)
Many clients with Subaru vehicles come into our shop and want us to install a dark strip of tint - what we call a "visor strip" and others refer to it as an "eyebrow strip" - to the top of the windshield to reduce the glare they are faced with when traveling towards the sun.
The problem for us is when these vehicles are equipped with Subaru's Eyesight system.
We have thoroughly investigated the wisdom of placing a window film over the cameras and believe it is a huge mistake to do so.
Anything placed in front of the cameras of this safety feature will reduce its ability to function properly and effectively render them useless in a collision situation.
Anyone who places window tinting in this area of the windshield on a vehicle with this system can be held liable should the vehicle be involved in an accident where it was determined the Eyesight system was not working properly as a result.
Since we care about the safety of our clients, we will refuse to tint the windshield in the area of the Eyesight cameras so as not to obstruct the clear view of these sensitive cameras and to insure their proper operation.
This means we will NOT place a visor strip at the top of the windshield.
It also means that if you request us to tint the full windshield even in a very light ceramic film to reduce the heat, we will not do it. "
Carmel Tint installer is turning down money to do a job. It could certainly be because it is a simple CYA from law suits. It may also be out of genuine concern or some combination. Can't tell you why.
One tint installer, Carmel Tints (Indianapolis), has a lengthy list of vehicles where tints may cause problems with careful statements about each. It's statement on tinting Subaru Eyesight equipped windows with an "eyebrow" strip near the top is attached below:
I haven't investigated if other tint installers agree and apparently the person posting knows of some that will install tint on Subaru Eyesight equipped vehicles although the installation will disagree with the Subaru recommendations or are willing to install if owners request:
The Carmel Tint statement includes the following:
"Subaru Eyesight Warning
Subaru Eyesight System -
Our Position
Subaru's Warning to Owners (click on to enlarge)Many clients with Subaru vehicles come into our shop and want us to install a dark strip of tint - what we call a "visor strip" and others refer to it as an "eyebrow strip" - to the top of the windshield to reduce the glare they are faced with when traveling towards the sun.
The problem for us is when these vehicles are equipped with Subaru's Eyesight system.
We have thoroughly investigated the wisdom of placing a window film over the cameras and believe it is a huge mistake to do so.
Anything placed in front of the cameras of this safety feature will reduce its ability to function properly and effectively render them useless in a collision situation.
Anyone who places window tinting in this area of the windshield on a vehicle with this system can be held liable should the vehicle be involved in an accident where it was determined the Eyesight system was not working properly as a result.
Since we care about the safety of our clients, we will refuse to tint the windshield in the area of the Eyesight cameras so as not to obstruct the clear view of these sensitive cameras and to insure their proper operation.
This means we will NOT place a visor strip at the top of the windshield.
It also means that if you request us to tint the full windshield even in a very light ceramic film to reduce the heat, we will not do it. "
Carmel Tint installer is turning down money to do a job. It could certainly be because it is a simple CYA from law suits. It may also be out of genuine concern or some combination. Can't tell you why.
Why is anything I've written here considered a problem? Being called a "dope" is a personal insult.
What's wrong with this post, and what forum rules were broken?
"Yeah, and weird that he says he has a Legacy and is posting on a Crosstrek forum. Doesn't add up... "
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Lol 🤣 oh I see .....where I come from the word "dope" is another term for "Cool" haha and that's what I meant by that btw im sorry if I offended you! I'm just here to inform not start arguments that is all.
OK, if that's what was meant, we're good! So difficult to communicate via text...
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Hello all, so here's the verdict I talked to my guy yesterday hes the only 40 plus years technician, used to work at a suburu plant in kentucky where he would calibrate eyesight systems, deals with customers daily about eyesight. He kind of gave me a answer I didn't want to hear cause it doesn't solidify your questions, but he says and I quote " there is a specific procedure that they go through to calibrate the system which is also connected remotely through subaru starlink, subaru knows remotely if your system has been compromised, in any way". Meaning if my tint really did affect my eyesights ablity to perform 'well' or 100% per say than subaru knows about it and will try to contact you. There is no such thing has a eyesight system that works half or 50% of the time it's ether affected(not working) 100% or working 100% there's no in-between. So when he pulled my car in and he looked at the dash and drove it for awhile, he said it didn't shut off and no lights on the dash which tells him it's working fine, there is no need to run more tests or try to reclibrate the system.
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And there's no such tool that he has at least here in the shop that can actually pull up data on eyesight, Subaru Starlink is the big brother meaning they monitor eyesight, he doesn't, the only thing he can do is look and drive and if it shuts off and stays off then he goes from there. I still can upload videos of me using the system in real situations because I trust it, but at this point I think you guys want hard evidence which is understandable so I'll just give his advice to me to share with you all.
"Listen to your manual if tinting your windshield is something you're interested in, then do it at your own discretion."
That being said I don't promote to tint your windshield illegally, every state has their laws , pretty much every tint shop out in colorado won't apply tint to subaru windshields with eyesight anyway, I got off lucky because I knew a guy at a shop who also tinted his 2018 Crosstrek XV windshield with eyesight. I was just was really excited to share the news with you all hoping it would help those who where interested!
"Listen to your manual if tinting your windshield is something you're interested in, then do it at your own discretion."
That being said I don't promote to tint your windshield illegally, every state has their laws , pretty much every tint shop out in colorado won't apply tint to subaru windshields with eyesight anyway, I got off lucky because I knew a guy at a shop who also tinted his 2018 Crosstrek XV windshield with eyesight. I was just was really excited to share the news with you all hoping it would help those who where interested!
That's interesting. I expect it would affect the warranty and liability if you were to get into an accident, especially if someone was seriously injured or killed.
"There is no such thing has a eyesight system that works half or 50% of the time it's ether affected(not working) 100% or working 100% there's no in-between."
This is the part I have a problem with. We've had lots of people posting here that the mod they did, whether tinting, Rain-X, sticking a radar detector on the dash, or whatever, didn't affect EyeSight because it didn't turn off. It's a visual system, no lidar or radar, so I can't imagine that something that affects what it sees does not affect it in some way, reducing its performance. There has to be some range of tolerance so it can function on a sunny day as well as a rainy night.
So far, nobody has been able to provide any actual evidence, one way or the other, to prove or disprove whether EyeSight is still operating at 100% after the mod or whether it's down to 90% or whatever but hasn't shut off yet. It's all anecdotal.
"There is no such thing has a eyesight system that works half or 50% of the time it's ether affected(not working) 100% or working 100% there's no in-between."
This is the part I have a problem with. We've had lots of people posting here that the mod they did, whether tinting, Rain-X, sticking a radar detector on the dash, or whatever, didn't affect EyeSight because it didn't turn off. It's a visual system, no lidar or radar, so I can't imagine that something that affects what it sees does not affect it in some way, reducing its performance. There has to be some range of tolerance so it can function on a sunny day as well as a rainy night.
So far, nobody has been able to provide any actual evidence, one way or the other, to prove or disprove whether EyeSight is still operating at 100% after the mod or whether it's down to 90% or whatever but hasn't shut off yet. It's all anecdotal.
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I agree with you honestly, Im only a detailer at subaru so I don't know all that much about eyesight at least not as much as he does, everyone has their own opinions on it I would suppose. This is his verdict on the situation so take it with a grain of salt of course ether way at the end of the day it was my choice like I said before I drive day and night in multiple situations, we even got a nice snowstorm yesterday and still the systems performed fine only would shut off as i go through a intersection with no lines or if the lines are not painted correctly
...until you get a ticket for have a tinted windshield, or until you have an accident resulting from your forward visibility being compromised at night.
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Ether way it seems most tint shop are keen on not tinting the windshield with eyesight, and again I've been driving like this for a long time and I'm young with no type of ticket's or anything it doesn't affect my ability to see at all I see just fine 30% isn't really that dark to begin with at least in my opinion. But respectfully everyone is entitled to their own choices and opinions
When I referred to "an engineer at Subaru" I meant someone working in engineering on the EyeSight system at Subaru who could offer some insight into how it's affected by various things, rather than a technician working in the service department of a dealership. I'm sure he's a good tech and obviously has a lot of experience but it's not the same thing.
Oh well, I guess we'll all have to keep speculating for a while until someone like AAA does some testing. It would be pretty easy - do the cardboard box test, then stick a piece of tint film over the cameras and try again... 😸
So, now, I'm going with the "the only dumb question is the one that is never asked" mentality (I'm the guy who boldly strides where angels fear to tread), and show my ignorance on the whole shebang.....
Other than the nasty logistics of fittings, is there any reason that a tint film for the interior of the front windshield wouldn't work, so long as it has notches and allowances trimmed into it to allow for the EyeSight camera mount/trim/frame/whatever it's called/etc? Yeah, I imagine it'd be a p.i.t.a. to install, but it wouldn't go infront of the camera lenses themselves and cause interference, right?
edit: spelling is hard
Other than the nasty logistics of fittings, is there any reason that a tint film for the interior of the front windshield wouldn't work, so long as it has notches and allowances trimmed into it to allow for the EyeSight camera mount/trim/frame/whatever it's called/etc? Yeah, I imagine it'd be a p.i.t.a. to install, but it wouldn't go infront of the camera lenses themselves and cause interference, right?
edit: spelling is hard
There have been a ton of posts on this subject (and dash cams, etc.) From what others have posted it seems some tint shops will do it with cutouts if it's legal to have tint in your state. Problem is, most states only allow the top few inches to be tinted, if at all, which is exactly where EyeSight is looking. So it's kind of moot, really... 😸
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I have seen that before kinda looks funny , my whole windshield tint was installed in the inside as well but honestly I wouldn't have a hard answer for you from my experience personally and the guy who installed it, I'm pretty sure in you would be fine but you or someone you know would have to do it , because no tint shops are going to install any type of film on the windshield in colorado
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