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#161 ·
MountainJoe said:
If the price of gas doubles and that results in me driving half as much, that is a net of zero savings. But in reality, there is no way I, or most people, can cut their driving in half (you have to go to work, the store, etc.). So we would end up spending more money on fuel, thus having less to spend on steak and beer. Ugh.
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Funny how people in Europe have figured this out but Americans want their gas guzzlers... :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know... ;)
 
#162 ·
AstroKats said:
Funny how people in Europe have figured this out but Americans want their gas guzzlers... :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know... ;)
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Europe is a completely different use case. Most Europeans live closer to work, shopping, etc. than the average American. They have reliable train service just about everywhere and, even if they want to take a car vacation, they don't have nearly as far to drive. The entire nation of France is less than 80% the size of just the state of Texas.
 
#163 ·
MountainJoe said:
Europe is a completely different use case. Most Europeans live closer to work, shopping, etc. than the average American. They have reliable train service just about everywhere and, even if they want to take a car vacation, they don't have nearly as far to drive. The entire nation of France is less than 80% the size of just the state of Texas.
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All true but millions of Americans live in big cities and still want to drive gas guzzlers. Even if you live in rural Texas it doesn't mean you have to drive a giant truck, unless you're compensating for something... ;)
 
#165 ·
AstroKats said:
All true but millions of Americans live in big cities and still want to drive gas guzzlers. Even if you live in rural Texas it doesn't mean you have to drive a giant truck, unless you're compensating for something... ;)
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My wife and I have been calling them "compensation trucks" for years. :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, I'm doing my part by driving a Crosstrek instead of a big truck ... since I don't need to compensate for anything. It's actually the most fuel-efficient car I have ever owned, with or without a/s/s.
 
#167 ·
AstroKats said:
I disagree. AS/S (the topic) is a knee jerk reaction by automakers to try to meet CAFE standards. They should stop selling giant gas guzzling trucks.
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Subaru, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't sell giant gas guzzling trucks. So can't they meet CAFE standards without a/s/s?
 
#168 ·
MountainJoe said:
Subaru, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't sell giant gas guzzling trucks. So can't they meet CAFE standards without a/s/s?
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Well, they they sell the Ascent. There are probably lots of them driving around when they don't need a giant SUV to go to the supermarket. Again, gas prices would have an impact...

Americans need to be weaned off giant SUVs!
 
#169 ·
MountainJoe said:
My wife and I have been calling them "compensation trucks" for years. :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, I'm doing my part by driving a Crosstrek instead of a big truck ... since I don't need to compensate for anything. It's actually the most fuel-efficient car I have ever owned, with or without a/s/s.
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Some parts of the country are filled with big trucks. Not to compensate, but because they are needed for many blue-collar jobs. If you’re referring to people who lift their trucks two stories and ruin them, then I get that. But crosstreks are pretty useless once you get out of the city, unless you’re using them to get back into the city.
Just saying, because where I live in northern colorado, seems like half of the vehicles on the road are big duallys with flat beds… and they actually serve a purpose.
 
#171 ·
sashakoul said:
Some parts of the country are filled with big trucks. Not to compensate, but because they are needed for many blue-collar jobs. If you’re referring to people who lift their trucks two stories and ruin them, then I get that. But crosstreks are pretty useless once you get out of the city, unless you’re using them to get back into the city.
Just saying, because where I live in northern colorado, seems like half of the vehicles on the road are big duallys with flat beds… and they actually serve a purpose.
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We'll never be able to ascertain which giant trucks "serve a purpose" and which are compensating for something. There sure are a lot driving around here with nothing in the bed... ;)
 
#172 ·
AstroKats said:
We'll never be able to ascertain which giant trucks "serve a purpose" and which are compensating for something. There sure are a lot driving around here with nothing in the bed... ;)
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For me it’s the big trailers that give it away, but I’m guessing you don’t see too many of those in your area lol.
You can usually tell by the driver too. Old man with a cowboy hat versus frat boy with giant sunglasses :unsure:

Sorry for pulling this thread off-topic… just had to step in and defend the ag community.
 
#173 ·
sashakoul said:
For me it’s the big trailers that give it away, but I’m guessing you don’t see too many of those in your area lol.
You can usually tell by the driver too. Old man with a cowboy hat versus frat boy with giant sunglasses :unsure:

Sorry for pulling this thread off-topic… just had to step in and defend the ag community.
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And I'm sorry if I offended the ag community or the construction community. A giant truck in the city seems to be an American rite of passage...
 
#174 ·
AstroKats said:
And I'm sorry if I offended the ag community or the construction community. A giant truck in the city seems to be an American rite of passage...
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You’re all good. I just wanted to point out that gas guzzlers aren’t always by choice. I used to live on the east coast so I know exactly what you mean.
I don’t really have a say in this thread otherwise because my engine only shuts off at a light if I stall. Unfortunately there’s no device that disables that “feature” :p.
 
#175 ·
a truck is a necessity here if you want to be productive at all. Hauling lumber, firewood, hay, home repair items, trash to the land fill (because we aren't spoiled with trash pickup like y'all city people!) and any sense of confidence in deep snow when the plow doesn't go by for another hour after youre supposed to be at work and a 13" snowfall came down.... The Crosstrek is great for me and my wife and kid - thats why I got it, for a family vehicle thats as capable as possible off-road. But im definitely still keeping an eye out for an old 4x4 truck for the things life in the sticks requires!
 
#176 ·
I use the AS/S eliminator, but I still turn it on for known long traffic lights and drive thrus. I just wish the button were in a better place. Most automakers put the AS/S button by the shifter or the start button. Who wants to come up with an auto-stop / X-mode button position swap?
 
#177 ·
Speaking of CAFE standards, isn’t it based on the entire fleet’s mpg? Subaru would need a hybrid for every model and then a stand alone full electric just to keep up with the requirements. I would expect the A/S/S to be a stopgap until they are forced to power up to the next set of rising standards or pony up more money/fines/resources. Having a model with 17 miles of full electric capability is a weak response to this governmental provided issue, and the A/S/S is our price to play in the game.
 
#179 ·
mholzer54_5543 said:
I was a non-believer until I saw this analysis on YouTube. Check it out. Link is here:StartStopAnalysis

Someone mentioned a $50 starter and according to this, the starters used on start/stop are more expensive. I think it could be a lot more.
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That was entertaining but I'm not interested in saving 5% of fuel if the engine dies when I'm about to merge into traffic... :rolleyes:
 
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