[MA Subie]

Yup! Why you can't rely on it. Speed limits change and your nav app may not get the memo. Keep an eye on the road signs and you'll be fine.

I can see it now. "But officer, my nav app said the speed limit is 65".

 

[wwwsam]

Yup! Why you can't rely on it. Speed limits change and your nav app may not get the memo. Keep an eye on the road signs and you'll be fine.

Not sure if subie has it, but a lot of new cars read speed signs with the accident avoidance cameras and puts the last read speed sign on the dash.
The last car i drove with this was a rental Mitsi Outlander and it was extremely accurate passing through multiple work zones. It would change the moment you passed the sign.
I would argue it was more reliable then a partially attentive driver... In any case it was good even just as a reliable reference/second set of eyes.


Some older cars I've driven with sat nav will just show the speed on the headunit off the map data from when it last updated.

 

[AstroKats]

Not sure if subie has it, but a lot of new cars read speed signs with the accident avoidance cameras and puts the last read speed sign on the dash.
The last car i drove with this was a rental Mitsi Outlander and it was extremely accurate passing through multiple work zones. It would change the moment you passed the sign.
I would argue it was more reliable then a partially attentive driver... In any case it was good even just as a reliable reference/second set of eyes.


Some older cars I've driven with sat nav will just show the speed on the headunit off the map data from when it last updated.

Yes, this is all what was discussed above, No, Subaru doesn't have it to my knowledge.

 

[wwwsam]

Yes, this is all what was discussed above, No, Subaru doesn't have it to my knowledge.

My bad, i only skimmed the last few comments.

And darn that's a shame that it still doesn't have it, although understandable as subie tends to only be able to focus on a few things at a time.

 

[AstroKats]

My bad, i only skimmed the last few comments.

And darn that's a shame that it still doesn't have it, although understandable as subie tends to only be able to focus on a few things at a time.

Yeah, I wonder if it will be added at some point. It should just be a software update as the cameras are already reading the road and the dash has a place to display it if you have nav.

 

[CappyC]

There are thousands of errors in the GIS map databases so no surprise that one of them's got a speed limit wrong for a given road.

 

[LeM]

I test drove a Honda CRV EX-L that used the speed sign recognition. I was not sure if it came from monitoring signs, or from onboard navigation. Yesterday I test drove a 2020 Crosstrek Limited with Navigation. The speed signs popped up on the dash, I'm assuming from the onboard Navigation. Btw, I test drove a Honda HRV. It's a slug. The Crosstrek Limited had a 2.0 engine and was much better around town, but needed the 2.5 like my Forester.

 

[GeoXTMMXIX]

Why not just keep an eye on road signs? They still exist, don't they?

Thank you. You must be a grown-up, self-reliant, common sense driver, that loves driving, and not being "driven" by silly fallable software. Actually I am surprised you bought a Subaru, because you're not so whiney as the rest.

 

[MA Subie]

Thank you. You must be a grown-up, self-reliant, common sense driver, that loves driving, and not being "driven" by silly fallable software. Actually I am surprised you bought a Subaru, because you're not so whiney as the rest.

Hey, watch who you're calling a grown-up.

 

[CanadianRogue]

Hi everyone,

I don't have the Crosstrek yet as it is being ordered but I was wondering if the eyesight reads the speed limit and which screen will it show up if it exists? Console or the 11.6" screen? This will be a Canadian Onyx model.

I searched and I can't find it. Maybe I didn't do it correctly. Thanks.

Just came out of a '22 Qashqai and into a '24 Crosstrek Wilderness and I'm astonished at a few things. Note the Qashqai does not have the same "EyeSight" tech (three actual lenses) but it definitely had sign recognition (not pulled from the nav system). And displayed in the console not just the center display. There's a few other minor disappointments, like no front camera and thus no 360 overhead bird's eye view. But I'm loving my Ice Silver Metallic Crosstrek Wilderness. Still less than a week old.

 

[GerMorke]

FYI: Since July 7, 2024, the Intelligent Speed Assistant (ISA) has been mandatory for all new vehicles in the EU. The ISA displays a detected speed limit and warns with a visual and acoustic signal if the permitted maximum speed is exceeded. This means that all new Subarus imported into the EU from July 7, 2024 will also have it.
There are now complaints from drivers of all car brands about the annoying beeping, because the built-in systems seem to react very quickly. The ISA can be deactivated manually every time the vehicle is restarted. However, this only applies to the current journey and must be repeated every time the engine is switched off completely.

 

[Greyfox]

My newer Nissan Frontier has this feature, and I do believe our 24 CTW has it as well.

As far as the black box and telematics...

Black boxes have been in vehicles for quite a while now and have been used by investigators (like myself), lawyers, insurance, etc for major accidents, usually involving death. A court order/warrant must be obtained to get this evidence. Usually not an issue. This information is protected by privacy laws.

The telematics or data being sent back to the mother ship of Subaru or whatever vehicle manufacturer you drive, IS NOT mandatory nor protected (at this time), but marketing geniuses have made you think you need it (ie. the app that can remote start/stop your vehicle, lock your doors, inform you of an alarm, etc...is all data being collected and sold to various other third parties, including insurance carriers. Every time you link up with your cell phone, Subaru now has access to that as well. They pretty much know more about your habits than you do. All those over the air software updates for your infotainment or ECM updates are also tracked. While this feature may be useful for some, it also skirts many privacy laws.

I have been on several forums and chats regarding this topic for the last few years. Some folks have disconnected the telematics to avoid software updates (seems some newer updates cause more harm in cell phones connecting correctly) and to keep their privacy. This obviously is frowned upon by the manufacturers as they loose there data gathering and may cause issues in contacting or alerting someone about possible maintenance needed for their ride?? But some folks would rather avoid the dealership all together.
Basically pulling the antenna cable is the easiest and simplest way of disconnecting the telematics system. This however will prevent any over the air transmissions including Sirius radio, built in navigation, loss of app use, etc. Some folks do not mind it, and some do.

With all manufactures trying to 'control' our right to repair more closely, they will keep placing these hurdles in the way to the point where simple oil changes cannot be done by anyone except the tech at the dealership with the proper access code And while your at the dealership waiting for that overpriced oil change, your insurance carrier will raise your rate because you passed several license plate readers indicating you cut through a neighborhood at 5 mph over the speed limit, to make it to your service appointment on time Then while sitting in the waiting room you will be bombarded by txt and emails trying to sell you something related to your Subaru or whatever
Scarry stuff. Big brother and new world order of tracking your every movement is moving at much faster rate these days

 

[GerMorke]

The black box has also been mandatory for new cars registered in the EU since July 7, 2024.
In the EU, the police, a court, an insurance company, the manufacturer of the car or other interested parties do not have general and constant access to the data in the black box. In the EU, a court order is generally required for this. You only get one in the event of an important legal reason, such as an accident.
However, I don't know whether there might be a back door that is not officially permitted.

Personally, I support the statements made by Greyfox and also view this development extremely critically. I am happy to have a 2023 Crosstrek without a black box and without ISA.

 

[Alcyone83]

Always to keep in mind:

"Subaru's Eyesight Data Collection Terms (See your Eyesight and Vehicle Manual).

• If you get into an accident, law enforcement and interested parties can subpoena the records, which include a short period of recorded data (cameras, ECU and Eyesight data, etc) that are permanently recorded at the time an impact is detected."

Which of course also includes the speed of the vehicle. I would assume that the speed limit indicator would display red and or flash when you are exceeding local speed limits.

And all this is sent to the Subaru Mothership via StarLink. And I am waiting for the day when all this data is sent to your auto insurance company and your rates are adjusted accordingly. Progressive Insurance already has a voluntary telematics-based auto insurance program: either a device that plugs in to your OBD II port or an app on your phone.

Usaa calls theirs "safe pilot". I only saved 15% on my 6 month renewal.

 

[23Newbie]

Yeah, I wonder if it will be added at some point. It should just be a software update as the cameras are already reading the road and the dash has a place to display it if you have nav.

Other day I had Android Auto on the screen, but no destination/guidance set. No speed limit indicator until I set a destination. I think that odd. I'd assume it's using GoogleMaps either way... so why not have the speed limit displayed all the time?

 

[GerMorke]

If the maximum permitted speed is only displayed, that's fine. In the EU, however, the beeping also starts if you don't turn it off beforehand.

 

[sas-XV]

My newer Nissan Frontier has this feature, and I do believe our 24 CTW has it as well.

As far as the black box and telematics...

Black boxes have been in vehicles for quite a while now and have been used by investigators (like myself), lawyers, insurance, etc for major accidents, usually involving death. A court order/warrant must be obtained to get this evidence. Usually not an issue. This information is protected by privacy laws.

The telematics or data being sent back to the mother ship of Subaru or whatever vehicle manufacturer you drive, IS NOT mandatory nor protected (at this time), but marketing geniuses have made you think you need it (ie. the app that can remote start/stop your vehicle, lock your doors, inform you of an alarm, etc...is all data being collected and sold to various other third parties, including insurance carriers. Every time you link up with your cell phone, Subaru now has access to that as well. They pretty much know more about your habits than you do. All those over the air software updates for your infotainment or ECM updates are also tracked. While this feature may be useful for some, it also skirts many privacy laws.

I have been on several forums and chats regarding this topic for the last few years. Some folks have disconnected the telematics to avoid software updates (seems some newer updates cause more harm in cell phones connecting correctly) and to keep their privacy. This obviously is frowned upon by the manufacturers as they loose there data gathering and may cause issues in contacting or alerting someone about possible maintenance needed for their ride?? But some folks would rather avoid the dealership all together.
Basically pulling the antenna cable is the easiest and simplest way of disconnecting the telematics system. This however will prevent any over the air transmissions including Sirius radio, built in navigation, loss of app use, etc. Some folks do not mind it, and some do.

With all manufactures trying to 'control' our right to repair more closely, they will keep placing these hurdles in the way to the point where simple oil changes cannot be done by anyone except the tech at the dealership with the proper access code And while your at the dealership waiting for that overpriced oil change, your insurance carrier will raise your rate because you passed several license plate readers indicating you cut through a neighborhood at 5 mph over the speed limit, to make it to your service appointment on time Then while sitting in the waiting room you will be bombarded by txt and emails trying to sell you something related to your Subaru or whatever
Scarry stuff. Big brother and new world order of tracking your every movement is moving at much faster rate these days

Ha, yep Subaru certainly has me covered. Yesterday after using my windshield washer I got the alert on the dashboard that my WSW fluid was low. That's fine. What is a little more intrusive is that I also got a text message AND an email warning me that my WSW fluid was low.

 

[GerMorke]

Ha, yep Subaru certainly has me covered. Yesterday after using my windshield washer I got the alert on the dashboard that my WSW fluid was low. That's fine. What is a little more intrusive is that I also got a text message AND an email warning me that my WSW fluid was low.

I assume that you have the Subaru app installed on your smartphone. This app is also available in Germany/Europe. But reading something like this, it's a clear example to me that I will never install this app.
"Big Brother", or better: "Big Subaru is watching you."

 

[xannand]

Speed limit shows in the centre cluster with Crosstrek that has navigation. It doesn’t actually read speed limit signs so it is usually inaccurate since it relies solely on map data.

 

[CanadianRogue]

Hi everyone,

I don't have the Crosstrek yet as it is being ordered but I was wondering if the eyesight reads the speed limit and which screen will it show up if it exists? Console or the 11.6" screen? This will be a Canadian Onyx model.

I searched and I can't find it. Maybe I didn't do it correctly. Thanks.

Can confirm it only has the speed limit in NAV using info from maps app, and only IF you have a route programmed. If you're just driving, it's not there. Disappointing really considering a 3 camera "eyesight technology" My 22 Qashqai had speed sign recognition and therefore was able to give an accurate reading in the console AND the NAV, with or without a route. It could also provide navigation without Android Auto or Car Play.