Not to make your decision harder, but Nitto has a new tire aimed at us too, the nomad.
I think noise is a serious concern, depending on your use case. The falkens sound exactly like stock to me. I would trade a couple pounds for silence and toughness any day. (And the butch tires look)

 

We have the Wildpeaks and there has been no increase in road noise.

 

I also have the Wildpeaks and don't notice any additional noise. Great tire in my opinion.

 

Thank you all. Might go with 215/65R17. Slightly narrower, slightly lighter, slightly cheaper.

 

i have the wildpeaks on my 2021 sport. i went through two sets of GO15s on my 2016 crosstrek. i like both tires but my next tires will be wildpeaks. they work similarly to the GO-15s in the dirt and snow (very good) but are quieter and handle better on the pavement. i also appears the wildpeaks will last longer than the GO15s. i love them

 

How have the Wildpeaks been holding up?

 

I have the Wildpeaks and are pleased with their performance. However, after purchasing them, I was disappointed to learn that my Wildpeaks were made in China.

 

And Falken is a subsidiary of Sumitomo Rubber, a Japanese company...

 

My Geolandars hum and sing on the road. It's loudest between 0-80mph. lol

 

LOL, what tune?

 

I have the Wildpeaks on my 18' Crosstrek and have been very satisfied with them! I live in Colorado with cold and snow and they have done great with traction. I had the OEM Yokohama Geolandar G91F and these are comparable in noise. Louder on some surfaces but smooth and subtle on most. Lost a few MPG but worth the sacrifice. Maybe 3 mpg less.

And they look cool too!

 

I might upgrade to the Nokian Outpost , currently run Nokian Nordman 7s and have had excellent results with past models . I like the idea of the amarid sidewalls as I do like to go exploring

 

Interesting articles on this tire market segment:
Call ‘A/T Lite’ Tires What You WIll – This Segment’s Making a Name for Itself
CUV Drivers Stretching Road’s Boundaries Means New A/T Tire Alternative

 

Since I only have a few 1000 miles on my Wildpeaks, these new ones come too late. But they look interesting. I find the Wildpeaks a little noisier on bumps, but the same on good pavement.

 

Hadn't noticed that but it's not my daily driver. I was just pleased when I first got them that the road noise on pavement didn't seem to have changed.

 

My favorite Willie Nelson song. A solo flash mob. The Nokias and the Falkens might do a better job keeping these posts on the Subaru Crosstreks focused pavement than our music...but all of us have the ability to careen a little off the straight and narrow.

 

My favorite Willie Nelson song. A solo flash mob. The Nokias and the Falkens might do a better job keeping these posts on the Subaru Crosstreks focused pavement than our music...but all of us have the ability to careen a little off the straight and narrow.

Does anyone know where the video was filmed? Looks familiar...

 

I have the Wildpeak’s on my 21 Crosstrek sport. The car feels better planted to the road in every condition. My 14 Crosstrek and my 16 Forester came with the Yokohama’s as did the 21. In the rain all cars would hydroplane very bad, to the point of being scary. I hated those tires! Put only 5,000 miles on the 21 before pulling them off. The Forester had them on for 15,000 miles before putting Coopers vision of Wildpeak trails on it. Total confedence now!
oh, by the way if anyone wants a set of Yokohama stock tires and is in Northern Idaho hit me up…….

 

The Forester had them on for 15,000 miles before putting Coopers vision of Wildpeak trails on it. Total confedence now!
oh, by the way if anyone wants a set of Yokohama stock tires and is in Northern Idaho hit me up…….

Which ones, the Discoverer AT3 4S? How are they w.r.t. the Wildpeaks?

 

Went with Widlpeaks after all. Was really on the fence with the Outpost APTs (they're much lighter), but the very few reviews I've found complained about a severe growl/noise even at moderate speeds. My objective was to have a more robust tire for forest roads, with a "rugged" look yet as little road noise as possible.

Given I took a few dB measures over a specific highway stretch at a specific speed with the Geolandars, I'll soon compare with the Falkens. Likewise for MPGs, since I've monitored them on my 2019.

Subjective impressions: more comfy of a ride (though the revised 2022 suspension could be the reason), smoother, more grip.

 

Do you have a firmer impression of noise and MPGs now that you've had them for a while? Also, have you had a chance to run them in the snow yet?

 

Yeah, I've been pretty much completely satisfied with the Wildpeaks. Didn't do any dB measurements, but if there's any noise increase over the OEMs it's minuscule, and MPG seems pretty much unchanged. And the car's performance on wet pavement and on gravel is much improved.

 

I only notice noise on rough pavement.

 

I was on the fence between the Wildpeak AT Trail and Nitto Nomad Grappler. I like the Nitto truck tire line and eventually want the Trail Grapplers for my Jeep so I decided to give the Nomads a try. So far they look good, ride well, are no louder than stock that I can tell and grip better. Need to get more miles on them and really test them out, but so far I like em.


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I was on the fence between the Wildpeak AT Trail and Nitto Nomad Grappler. I like the Nitto truck tire line and eventually want the Trail Grapplers for my Jeep so I decided to give the Nomads a try. So far they look good, ride well, are no louder than stock that I can tell and grip better. Need to get more miles on them and really test them out, but so far I like em.


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Pictures please?

 

The Nitto is a direct response to the Wildpeak AT trails. A crossover beefy-looking semi-all-terrain tyre, under 30 lbs. An excellent option as well (didn't consider it as I was waiting for more reviews). Nomad Grappler | Nitto Tire ) @Vegaspilot, glad you enjoy them!

 

When the time comes I am going to consider the new Nitto's first and then a toss up between the Falken's and the G015's. Right now it's the Nitto's that have my attention.

 

after having put almost 22k miles on the wildpeaks in all conditions on my sport and about 50k miles on two sets of GO19s on my previous crosstrek i will definitely buy another set of wildpeaks. yes, i like them that much

 

Did anyone measure the tread depth on the Wildpeaks? Just checked it (after 5 000 km) and I get 9-10/32s depending on the spot, while new they're supposed to be 11/32. Mind you, it's with a puny cheap poking depth meter, but still. Would be worrying if the tires shed 1/32 after such a short distance.

Will definitely be looking to a back-to-back comparison of the A/T trails with Nitto Nomad Grapplers. Seems to be a direct competitor with a similar pattern and same weight.

 

@jimaco: They are tad nosier than OEMs. Measured on the same highway stretch at the same speed with a dBmeter app on a cell, within 1dB (as innacurate as this is, it does offer somewhat of a comparison metric). One feature that I noticed is that the worse (grooved or old or in the process of being re-surfaced) the asphalt is, the worse the noise increase with respect to the Geolandars. When driving on a new silky baby-butt smooth new road, there is no tread noise whatsoever.

Gas mileage - comparing to my 2019 fuel records, which I've had on stock tires, I would roughly estimate a <0.5l/100 km or 2mpg hit.

Winter traction - no idea. I swapped them for Nokian R5s before the first snow. The Wildpeaks are "snowflake" rated, and will definitely be better than OEM Geolandars, but they're far from being a winter tire. As a side note, there is increasing evidence, and discussion in Canada, that this rating (self-awared by the industry with little to no oversight) isn't much of a guarantee of good winter performance. It only tests braking in light snow acceleration on packed snow - no requirements w.r.t handling, cold weather grip, latereral grip, ice traction, slush evacuation, etc. So much that the EU is introducing an "ice grip" symbol, and putting mandatory universal performance metrics on their labels (which already include, for example, the noise levels in dB).

That having been said, YMMV. For those seeing occasional slush and light snow, IMHO the Wildpeaks will be sufficient heaps better than stock tyres. For those shoveling 6 months a year, nothing beats a true winter tire.

PS: My Wildpeaks are in 215/65R17. 5mm taller, speedo right on, 5 mm narrower.

Edited. Thanks @AM407

 

@Bluefoton : Thanks so much for your detailed response! The noise hit doesn't sound too bad, and the difference you've noticed between smooth/rough pavement gels with what I've read elsewhere. The gas mileage doesn't seem like to bad a hit. I've read anything from 0-3 MPG, and it really is a YMMV situation -- so much depends on where and how you drive, also, how much attention you pay to gas mileage.

I live in the PNW, so I'm almost never shoveling snow. I'm going to be hitting some ski areas in BC this year, so the 3PMSF symbol is a requirement. I don't have storage for a second set of tires, so I'm looking for something I can run all year. I've been going back and forth between a light AT with the snowflake stamp and an all-weather tire with it like Michelin CrossClimate 2's or Nokian WR G4. I have a feeling the latter would perform better than the WildPeaks in snow, but then there are those logging roads/etc. in the summer to consider.

I appreciate your perspective on the snowflake ratings -- just looking around at 3rd party tests there is definitely a big difference in winter performance among tires that carry that symbol -- even in the same class i.e. all-weather. It'll be interesting to see how that all shakes out.

Lastly, thanks for sizing info. Just curious -- what was your reason for opting for a skinnier, taller tire than the 225/60R17 stock size?

Thanks again for taking the time,

Jimaco

 

My pleasure!
Size: three minor reasons just to help lessen the negative impact of running such heavier tires..
1) weight: 28.9 vs.29.3 lbs
2) height: + 5 mm ground clearance, and puts the speedo bang on
3) sligthly smaller rolling resistance due to smaller width

 

Just expanding on something Bluefoton said…

Agreed that the 3PMS symbol doesn’t mean much. The testing requirement is indeed very limited, but it’s an acceleration test (on packed snow), not a braking test. All a tire has to do to earn the symbol is to accelerate 10% faster than the reference all season.

So, that’s it - better acceleration on packed snow. And that’s just compared to the generic, reference all-season. Anyone who’s driven in winter knows that packed snow is about the best surface to drive on anyway.

Also, it’s a misconception that you need winter tires (or 3PMS) on BC highways. You absolutely should, IMO, but that’s not how the law is written. According to the law, any M&S (ie all-season) tire with at least 3.5 mm (a little over 4/32”) tread counts as a “winter” tire.

 

I live here in Colorado and we get lots of snow of course. But the “3PMS” does have some significance in my experience. I’ve driven all season tires and they weren’t the best in snow… and I’ve driven all terrain tires. BFG KO2s in my Jeep and Falken Wildpeak AT Trails in my Subi and there is a noticeable difference driving in the snow. And when driving through mountains which require chains when it snows, if you have the “3PMS” tires, chains are not required. I’ve learned the hard way that the right tires in the snow makes all the difference. Just my experience.