I have been told no tinting anywhere on the windshield. That is tough here in Florida where we always at least have a tint brow in the front. I do notice my knees and hands get very hot, especially with such a cab forward design as ours. I sure wish I could at least dark tint the top few inches.

 

First of all Welcome to the forum

Some notes from Joe Spitz site

Notes
Eyesight uses two forward facing cameras to see the road ahead, and only works when they can 'see'. Don't block the camera's views, put anything reflective on the dash, hang anything from the rear view mirror, or clean the dash so that it's shiny. Replace the windshield wipers as necessary. The Eyesight cameras will turn off if the windshield fogs up of they can't see for any reason.
do not touch or try to clean the EyeSight camera lenses. It is imperative that extra precaution be used when cleaning the inside of the windshield, because over-spray from cleaners may impair or even damage the cameras’ lenses, which is not a warranty issue.

Cheers

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I asked the guy who I bought my car from and he said that with the tint the eyesight will not work properly.

 

^^^ Does this apply to the hood deflector also?

 

Just so you guys know I recently got a 2020 legacy with eyesight and tinted the whole front windshield at 30% the shop I took it too (tint my ride) had a guy who had a subi with eyesight and he told me the whole windshield is better than the strip and not to go below 30% so I went with 30 and I have no issues with eyesight at all, and belove me I've tested it the cruise control and all at night as well the rest of my windows are 5% so it looks pretty dark from the outside while providing good shade on the inside.

 

Just so you guys know I recently got a 2020 legacy with eyesight and tinted the whole front windshield at 30%

Eyesight aside, driving with a 30% tinted windshield at night is like driving with sunglasses at night. I hope your compromised outward visibility at night does not cause an accident!

 

Eyesight aside, is that even legal in your state? Most states only allow you to tint the top few inches. As for Eyesight, unless you're a Subaru engineer you can't possibly know whether it's being affected. Cruise control may work but the safety features are probably operating at reduced capability. It specifically tells you in the manual not to apply any coatings or films to the windshield.

See:

Applies to All Model Years - EyeSight performance and...

This comes up a lot in other threads, so I thought I'd start a dedicated one just to keep all of the facts and opinions in one place. I'll update the first post (if I can) when something new comes up that we can verify. Be nice... 😸 The facts: Subaru's EyeSight system uses stereo cameras (no...

www.subaruxvforum.com

 

Actually I work at suburu and know all the techs and engineers as you say, very well infact who also say suburu put that so they can cover their own *** and I can upload a extensive video of me using all of eyesights features that work 100% fine including at night, and no of course this ain't legal but honestly idc don't think that's cops number one priority is to pull people over cause of tint at least just in my state (colorado) Everyone is tinting their car past legal limits cops are not gonna pull everyone over for it plus I've tinted my windows this dark since I started getting cars 8 years ago still no troubles from cops

 

Actually I work at suburu and know all the techs and engineers as you say, very well infact who also say suburu put that so they can cover their own *** and I can upload a extensive video of me using all of eyesights features that work 100% fine including at night, and no of course this ain't legal but honestly idc don't think that's cops number one priority is to pull people over cause of tint at least just in my state (colorado) Everyone is tinting their car past legal limits cops are not gonna pull everyone over for it plus I've tinted my windows this dark since I started getting cars 8 years ago still no troubles from cops

Thanks for doing the testing - it's great to see mods tested properly
My main concern with the excessive tints is that if the police pull you over for something else - they will always have that to fall back on if they cannot make another offence stick - you know what I mean?

 

If you really do work at Subaru and know the engineers, I'd be more impressed if you uploaded the Eyesight calibration data that proves it has had no effect whatsoever.

 

Alright dope if that proves me right I can do that. Currently I'm on my 3 day weekend but I do return Tuesday, so stay tuned I'll give you what you want!

 

Actually that would be great as this come up here a lot. Please don't make personal insults, though.

 

Be civil, guys.

Just a friendly reminder from your moderators. 😉

 

No worries everything is gravy! I'm new here I get it, I'm just really excited to share this knowledge with the people here, I really feel like it could help that's all

 

🕶 Following closely 🕶

 

^^^^ LOL, I cannot imagine that a 30% tint will have no effect on EyeSight, a visual safety system that needs to be able to "see", especially at night. I'm trying to be open-minded, though...

I also wonder about the forum policies and whether they are OK with someone promoting something that they agree is illegal!

 

Subaru has engineers in Colorado?

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Bro you have to be joking lol 😂

 

Yeah I understand lol I'm not a crazy driver usally if you practice safe driving it pays off. The cops here tend to prioritize other things I've been next to several cops and never been pulled over

 

@AstroKats

Honestly I agree with you I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I could be wrong and he can pull up the data and it doesn't function 100%. At that point I'll admit defeat. All I can bring to table now is that since I've had the tint installed I've already been in a number of situations, night mostly. Hell I even for the fun of it drove out of Denver last night where there's no lighting on the highways. Where it worked fine and never did turn off (automatic braking, LDA, collision detection, and lane keep with cruise on) Everytime I'm behind someone and they turn into somewhere it activates, lol which idk about you guys but is quite annoying but safe of course 😜

 

Fwiw windshield tint is illegal in AZ and here they absolutely pull you over for it.

In for the data 👍

 

I don't have any skin in this game, no interest in a tinted window, but agree with those who would like to see the data.

One tint installer, Carmel Tints (Indianapolis), has a lengthy list of vehicles where tints may cause problems with careful statements about each. It's statement on tinting Subaru Eyesight equipped windows with an "eyebrow" strip near the top is attached below:

I haven't investigated if other tint installers agree and apparently the person posting knows of some that will install tint on Subaru Eyesight equipped vehicles although the installation will disagree with the Subaru recommendations or are willing to install if owners request:

The Carmel Tint statement includes the following:

"Subaru Eyesight Warning

Subaru Eyesight System -
Our Position


Subaru's Warning to Owners (click on to enlarge)

Many clients with Subaru vehicles come into our shop and want us to install a dark strip of tint - what we call a "visor strip" and others refer to it as an "eyebrow strip" - to the top of the windshield to reduce the glare they are faced with when traveling towards the sun.

The problem for us is when these vehicles are equipped with Subaru's Eyesight system.

We have thoroughly investigated the wisdom of placing a window film over the cameras and believe it is a huge mistake to do so.

Anything placed in front of the cameras of this safety feature will reduce its ability to function properly and effectively render them useless in a collision situation.

Anyone who places window tinting in this area of the windshield on a vehicle with this system can be held liable should the vehicle be involved in an accident where it was determined the Eyesight system was not working properly as a result.

Since we care about the safety of our clients, we will refuse to tint the windshield in the area of the Eyesight cameras so as not to obstruct the clear view of these sensitive cameras and to insure their proper operation.

This means we will NOT place a visor strip at the top of the windshield.

It also means that if you request us to tint the full windshield even in a very light ceramic film to reduce the heat, we will not do it. "

Carmel Tint installer is turning down money to do a job. It could certainly be because it is a simple CYA from law suits. It may also be out of genuine concern or some combination. Can't tell you why.

 

Hello all, so here's the verdict I talked to my guy yesterday hes the only 40 plus years technician, used to work at a suburu plant in kentucky where he would calibrate eyesight systems, deals with customers daily about eyesight. He kind of gave me a answer I didn't want to hear cause it doesn't solidify your questions, but he says and I quote " there is a specific procedure that they go through to calibrate the system which is also connected remotely through subaru starlink, subaru knows remotely if your system has been compromised, in any way". Meaning if my tint really did affect my eyesights ablity to perform 'well' or 100% per say than subaru knows about it and will try to contact you. There is no such thing has a eyesight system that works half or 50% of the time it's ether affected(not working) 100% or working 100% there's no in-between. So when he pulled my car in and he looked at the dash and drove it for awhile, he said it didn't shut off and no lights on the dash which tells him it's working fine, there is no need to run more tests or try to reclibrate the system.

 

And there's no such tool that he has at least here in the shop that can actually pull up data on eyesight, Subaru Starlink is the big brother meaning they monitor eyesight, he doesn't, the only thing he can do is look and drive and if it shuts off and stays off then he goes from there. I still can upload videos of me using the system in real situations because I trust it, but at this point I think you guys want hard evidence which is understandable so I'll just give his advice to me to share with you all.
"Listen to your manual if tinting your windshield is something you're interested in, then do it at your own discretion."

That being said I don't promote to tint your windshield illegally, every state has their laws , pretty much every tint shop out in colorado won't apply tint to subaru windshields with eyesight anyway, I got off lucky because I knew a guy at a shop who also tinted his 2018 Crosstrek XV windshield with eyesight. I was just was really excited to share the news with you all hoping it would help those who where interested!

 

I got off lucky

...until you get a ticket for have a tinted windshield, or until you have an accident resulting from your forward visibility being compromised at night.

 

That's interesting. I expect it would affect the warranty and liability if you were to get into an accident, especially if someone was seriously injured or killed.

"There is no such thing has a eyesight system that works half or 50% of the time it's ether affected(not working) 100% or working 100% there's no in-between."

This is the part I have a problem with. We've had lots of people posting here that the mod they did, whether tinting, Rain-X, sticking a radar detector on the dash, or whatever, didn't affect EyeSight because it didn't turn off. It's a visual system, no lidar or radar, so I can't imagine that something that affects what it sees does not affect it in some way, reducing its performance. There has to be some range of tolerance so it can function on a sunny day as well as a rainy night.

So far, nobody has been able to provide any actual evidence, one way or the other, to prove or disprove whether EyeSight is still operating at 100% after the mod or whether it's down to 90% or whatever but hasn't shut off yet. It's all anecdotal.

 

I agree with you honestly, Im only a detailer at subaru so I don't know all that much about eyesight at least not as much as he does, everyone has their own opinions on it I would suppose. This is his verdict on the situation so take it with a grain of salt of course ether way at the end of the day it was my choice like I said before I drive day and night in multiple situations, we even got a nice snowstorm yesterday and still the systems performed fine only would shut off as i go through a intersection with no lines or if the lines are not painted correctly

 

When I referred to "an engineer at Subaru" I meant someone working in engineering on the EyeSight system at Subaru who could offer some insight into how it's affected by various things, rather than a technician working in the service department of a dealership. I'm sure he's a good tech and obviously has a lot of experience but it's not the same thing.

Oh well, I guess we'll all have to keep speculating for a while until someone like AAA does some testing. It would be pretty easy - do the cardboard box test, then stick a piece of tint film over the cameras and try again... 😸

 

Ether way it seems most tint shop are keen on not tinting the windshield with eyesight, and again I've been driving like this for a long time and I'm young with no type of ticket's or anything it doesn't affect my ability to see at all I see just fine 30% isn't really that dark to begin with at least in my opinion. But respectfully everyone is entitled to their own choices and opinions

 

So, now, I'm going with the "the only dumb question is the one that is never asked" mentality (I'm the guy who boldly strides where angels fear to tread), and show my ignorance on the whole shebang.....

Other than the nasty logistics of fittings, is there any reason that a tint film for the interior of the front windshield wouldn't work, so long as it has notches and allowances trimmed into it to allow for the EyeSight camera mount/trim/frame/whatever it's called/etc? Yeah, I imagine it'd be a p.i.t.a. to install, but it wouldn't go infront of the camera lenses themselves and cause interference, right?

edit: spelling is hard

 

So, now, I'm going with the "the only dumb question is the one that is never asked" mentality (I'm the guy who bold strides where angels fear to tread), and show my ignorance on the whole shebang.....

Other than the nasty logistics of fittings, is there any reason that a tint film for the interior of the front windshield wouldn't work, so long as it has notches and allowances trimmed into it to allow for the EyeSight camera mount/trim/frame/whatever it's called/etc? Yeah, I imagine it'd be a p.i.t.a. to install, but it wouldn't go infront of the camera lenses themselves and cause interference, right?

There have been a ton of posts on this subject (and dash cams, etc.) From what others have posted it seems some tint shops will do it with cutouts if it's legal to have tint in your state. Problem is, most states only allow the top few inches to be tinted, if at all, which is exactly where EyeSight is looking. So it's kind of moot, really... 😸