2021 Crosstrek Limited, Pure Red
A petty positive review, albeit with the mandatory reviewer grousing about the CVT.
It could happen in the near future. Nissan is putting a tradition auto in the new Pathfinder! I don’t mind CVTs, they get the job done, and the newer ones are a lot better than the first generation CVTs. I think if you give them a few more years they’ll be able to find a way to make you feel more “connected” when driving. I know Subaru had a few issues with the CVT in the Ascent recently, so it makes me wonder if they’ll stick a traditional auto in that vehicle? They should ask Toyota for help with that.I'm glad you guys like your CVT's, I really do. However, there are people (like me) who agree with the reviewers who dislike them. At 59, I've driven all kinds of vehicles and I just can't bring myself to enjoy driving a CVT. I understand their strong points of always being at the correct RPM and achieving good gas mileage but, at least for me, it comes at a cost and that cost is its sound, feel and performance. My two other cars are a 2005 Xterra and a 2018 Challenger SRT 392. Those automatics feel and sound great. Of course, it's just my opinion. I respect your love of your CVT's so I hope you'll respect my love of traditional transmissions.
I'm one of those closet Subaru people hoping and hoping they'll go back to a regular transmission. I know they probably never will but a man can hope! I'm enjoying my 6MT but I'll have some serious decisions to make if and when I want another Crosstrek because we all pretty much know there won't be a 6MT in the next generation.
I do have a question for you, though. If Subaru actually made two identical Crosstreks with the only difference being a CVT versus a traditional automatic (not DCT or anything fancy but a good, solid standard automatic transmission), which would you buy? 🤔
CVT or MT, I hate a slush box. For me, it's the worst of both worlds. A CVT isn't fun or super responsive, it's efficient and has infinite gears. For my DD that I also camp with, it's perfect. If those were the only choices, I'd probably have bought the 6MT. My last car had it and it's a good Subaru tranny.I do have a question for you, though. If Subaru actually made two identical Crosstreks with the only difference being a CVT versus a traditional automatic (not DCT or anything fancy but a good, solid standard automatic transmission), which would you buy? 🤔
When in doubt, Miata is the answer!CVT or MT, I hate a slush box. For me, it's the worst of both worlds. A CVT isn't fun or super responsive, it's efficient and has infinite gears. For my DD that I also camp with, it's perfect. If those were the only choices, I'd probably have bought the 6MT. My last car had it and it's a good Subaru tranny.
This is all opinion of course. I'm not sure I've heard of someone who like planetary automatics before.
I'd like to see a good 8 speed DCT for the STI, but I'm sure that'll never happen. If I do end up buying a fun DD in a few years, as is my current tentative plan, I'm really not sure what tranny I'll want. I dislike the current BRZ's 6AT, but I don't see a much better option in the segment. Right now I don't think I'd want to DD another MT if there's a good auto option. The Mustang v8 looks good on paper, but the handling is very blah.
Would you classify the ZF 8-speed as a planetary automatic? From their website:This is all opinion of course. I'm not sure I've heard of someone who like planetary automatics before.
As long as you replace the fluid in the CVT you should be okay. The problem is consumer believe in that “life time” fluid none sense and it ends up bitting them in the rear end down the road. If you believe in “life time” fluid(s) you are seriously mistaken because there is no such thing.I really do feel bad for all you CVT people... we have been getting consistent snow in my area for the past couple weeks, and I’ve had a good share of fun in my 5spd cross trek. I’ve learned the secret of using the clutch to get a nice slide going, (and keep it going!) and now I can’t imagine trying to drift around without it!!
Anyways, I’m also one of those people who doesn’t appreciate CVTs at all. I like the feeling of driving my car, and I only get that through a manual. Having to shift gears also helps me stay focused on driving, especially for long distances or when I’m tired. Coming from an auto shop, I can tell you that most tranny problems that came through were CVT issues. Saw many cars that would make it to 100k miles, CVT would go out, and then it was done.
However... the good news is that this was not a Toyota/Subaru thing. Mostly saw this with Nissans, Honda’s, etc. But because of this, I just cant get myself to think of a CVT as a good thing, after seeing so many of them let people down.