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Oil change question for 2024

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planning on ordering a '24 Limited soon, but wanted to do some homework as i plan ahead. can any of the first owners of the '24 Crosstrek answer the following?

  • what oil weight is used (rumor suggests 0w16?)?
  • is the drain plug accessible without removing any bottom/skid plate?
  • what is the oil capacity?
  • what model/partnumber subaru oil filter does the car use?
  • crush washer part number? (hoping it's the same as all other subarus)

i'm wanting to confirm that many of the things will carry over from my 2012 Impreza. i'm hoping i don't have to remove a skid plate to change the oil. not the end of the world if i do, but it's extra time that i dislike when i do it on my wife's CR-V. i can change the oil on 2012 quite quickly due to the easy oil filter location and drain plug being readily accessible.
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I was running Amsoil for many years and now in my old age realize it was probably unnecessary for my use. Now I use Super Tech FS, Costco FS, or comparable and change at 5K. All good, same results to me and my car will definitely outlast me. Lol.
here is from toyota new engines...
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Before we know it, we will have SAE 0 single weight oils in our cars.
here is from toyota new engines...
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Is this from a hybrid? I could see using oil that thin in an engine that frequently shuts off and spends the majority of the time below normal 100C operating temperatures.
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Is this from a hybrid? I could see using oil that thin in an engine that frequently shuts off and spends the majority of the time below normal 100C operating temperatures.
I believe so. I think that's from a Toyota Crown which AFAIK is Hybrid only.
for now its in "Hybrid " give it 1 or 2 years ...

BMW B58TU2
i thik is now using 0W-12
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I have been following this guy for quite some time, great tear downs all makes and models. Not once have I got the impression that the damage was done due to the wrong type of oil.
Seems just following proper maintenance takes precedence over type/brand of oil. (Sad that so many were completely preventative by someone just simply changing and checking oil...or stopping before catastrophic failure occurs))

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Seems just following proper maintenance takes precedence over type/brand of oil. (Sad that so many were completely preventative by someone just simply changing and checking oil...or stopping before catastrophic failure occurs))

Yup and tap water. Nuff said.

I specialise owner/driver in diesel and have owned nothing but for 4 decades. Yup and add to that most out of warranty wing it or sell it and most never keep up to REAL LONG life maintenance, cuz costs too much and bought it on the cheap. The seconded and third owners are at fault too.

Just ignore the obvious.

James said:
Shaken; not distilled or factory fill coolant.
Garden hose.
Speaking of oil, I was in Walmart yesterday and 0W16 was 22 bucks and 0W20 was 25bucks for Mobile One. I wonder if they are encouraging lower viscosities by giving kickbacks to retailers who sell oil.
On a 54 mile round-trip making it back and forth [without mostly a stop] avg 38 mph a fill up can honestly state it not a harsh condition calculation.

Been good at the sixer.
To all who use 0W-16...Good luck
I aint worried about it.
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0W-16 vs 0W-20 is splitting hairs. Some 0W-16s will have a higher operating viscosity than some 0W-20s due to the overlap in the acceptable ranges.

My concern with 0W-16 is that the minimum High Temp - High Shear value is a bit lower than what's allowable for 0W-20. From the oil field study I mentioned in a previous post, there's a critical point where a too low HTHS causes significant wear. That point will depend upon the engine design and tolerances and whether there are any manufacturing imperfections. A higher/sufficient HTHS can protect against this wear. A lot of oils don't make their HTHS value readily available.

Then there's the question of how long the oil can maintain its protective properties which will be influenced by MANY factors, hence the normal (ideal conditions) maintenance schedule vs the severe (probably most people's conditions) schedule.

Base oil molecules and viscosity modifiers have improved significantly, but engine designers are always pushing the limits.

I suspect oil change intervals are more important than 16 vs 20.

That said, fuel savings are minimal, oil is cheap, and engines are expensive. I'll sleep well changing the oil every 3k miles with 0W-20.
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