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Hi Folks, I'm Mike (aka Junior) happy to have joined! I've used that name on LXforums (for modern Mopar stuff, and that was a fabulous community back in the day. I really miss that gang; though a lot of them are lifetime friends, that forum at that time in that late 2000's was something really special), FJCruiserForums (still love my FJ), and some others. I wish facebook hadn't killed the forums as the social spot because there's no better format to share hard info as well as experiences and just fun at the same time as this type of forum.
So here we are! My wife and I just placed an order for a 2023 Crosstrek Sport in CGK! We thought we were going there to put a deposit/hold on an incoming 2022, but when we got there, it had already been reserved.
I was reluctantly going to buy that one if I could (I say reluctantly, because it already had a Port-installed options package - Aero Crossbars, LED interior bulb upgrade, and the f*ing sunshade. That package adds $1294, but those three items are available directly from parts.Subaru.com for a total of $410 retail). I was ready to negotiate the purchase contingent on them not adding the Dealer-installed options they wanted to add ("wheel locks and paint and fabric protection" for $895, and window etching for $176), which I had a soft commitment that they would not include. Cool Gray Khaki was a must-have for us, and we really preferred the Sport to the Limited or others, so we really didn't have much stock to select from, nationwide. And when we arrived, that car had already been reserved, so we went to Plan B.
I had seen this morning that the 2023s were announced today, and I knew placing an order would allow me to avoid the pre-installed packages, so we confirmed that with the salesman, and after a couple rounds of "whatabout" we put down the order.
The build itself breaks down like this (we only added Package 22 and the HomeLink-enabled Auto-dimming mirrors kit):
The purchase cost breakdown is below:
So at the end of the day, I'm happy with the deal. The Market Adjustment "doc fee" is nothing more than what the market will allow them to overcharge, as confirmed by a forthcoming dealer a while ago. And it's pretty much a non-negotiable factor due to the risk of a class-action lawsuit if those who paid it find out that others did not. That's unlike accessories, which they can always use to pad the sale, because what's it worth anyway?...
I did a fair bit of number crunching on the accessories and reconfirmed that the dealer- or port-installed accessories are the easiest place for them to pad profit. That's well-known, but when you compare those package prices even to Subaru's own retail price list, it's absurd what they charge. And if you're handy at all, most any of those packages/accessories are truly plug-and-play. So we'll add a few things at retail (or 25% below retail from ShopSubaruParts or wherever), and call it good.
So I hope to be around reading and learning and not just lurking anymore. I'll update as soon as we get a VIN and a timeline. The dealer said September and perhaps as soon as late August, but others not involved in the sale are saying October at the earliest for delivery.
All the best, and until then!
So here we are! My wife and I just placed an order for a 2023 Crosstrek Sport in CGK! We thought we were going there to put a deposit/hold on an incoming 2022, but when we got there, it had already been reserved.
I was reluctantly going to buy that one if I could (I say reluctantly, because it already had a Port-installed options package - Aero Crossbars, LED interior bulb upgrade, and the f*ing sunshade. That package adds $1294, but those three items are available directly from parts.Subaru.com for a total of $410 retail). I was ready to negotiate the purchase contingent on them not adding the Dealer-installed options they wanted to add ("wheel locks and paint and fabric protection" for $895, and window etching for $176), which I had a soft commitment that they would not include. Cool Gray Khaki was a must-have for us, and we really preferred the Sport to the Limited or others, so we really didn't have much stock to select from, nationwide. And when we arrived, that car had already been reserved, so we went to Plan B.
I had seen this morning that the 2023s were announced today, and I knew placing an order would allow me to avoid the pre-installed packages, so we confirmed that with the salesman, and after a couple rounds of "whatabout" we put down the order.
The build itself breaks down like this (we only added Package 22 and the HomeLink-enabled Auto-dimming mirrors kit):
| (PRE 22 C CGL) 2023 Crosstrek Sport w/ Package 22 | $29,595 |
| (Package 22 includes Moonroof + Blind Spot Detection/ Rear Cross Traffic Alert +Keyless Access with Push-Button Start, and adds $1600) | |
| (CS2) (0KO 0H2) EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR AUTODIMMING HL MIRRORS | $681 |
| (0KO) Auto-Dimming Exterior Mirror with Approach Light | - |
| (0H2) Auto-Dimming Mirror with Compass and HomeLink | - |
| Destination and Delivery fee for MSRP | $1,225 |
| Factory Subtotal | $31,501 |
The purchase cost breakdown is below:
| 2023 Crosstrek Sport CGK with Options 22 and CS2 - MSRP | $31,501 |
| Total Taxes | $2,552 |
| Government Fee (Title & Registration, VLT/"Lieu Tax" for 1 year) | $703 |
| Proc/Doc Fee (local Market Adjustment, though they don't like you to call it that) | $599 |
| Total OTD price | $35,355 |
So at the end of the day, I'm happy with the deal. The Market Adjustment "doc fee" is nothing more than what the market will allow them to overcharge, as confirmed by a forthcoming dealer a while ago. And it's pretty much a non-negotiable factor due to the risk of a class-action lawsuit if those who paid it find out that others did not. That's unlike accessories, which they can always use to pad the sale, because what's it worth anyway?...
I did a fair bit of number crunching on the accessories and reconfirmed that the dealer- or port-installed accessories are the easiest place for them to pad profit. That's well-known, but when you compare those package prices even to Subaru's own retail price list, it's absurd what they charge. And if you're handy at all, most any of those packages/accessories are truly plug-and-play. So we'll add a few things at retail (or 25% below retail from ShopSubaruParts or wherever), and call it good.
So I hope to be around reading and learning and not just lurking anymore. I'll update as soon as we get a VIN and a timeline. The dealer said September and perhaps as soon as late August, but others not involved in the sale are saying October at the earliest for delivery.
All the best, and until then!
