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Newbies guide to Eyesight system

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IMO the eyesight system on my 2022 is quite primitive.
It is fairly dependable on the freeway going in a straight line.
On curves it will try to kill you.
If you’re clipping along at 65mph and suddenly reach a wall of stopped cars, it will try to kill you.
If the sun is shining straight into the cameras, it won’t be dependable. Same for any fog.
They lane centering will sometimes try to “drive by brail” and veer dangerously close to other cars.
It will disengage if you come to a complete stop.
The collision avoidance system only works at speeds less that 15mph and is designed for pedestrians. The system WILL NOT prevent you from driving into a wall.

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It's NOT trying to kill you!

A huge mistake a lot of people make is that this is not self-driving. Even Teslas are not self-driving. It's a driver-assist system. You need to pay attention and it will assist with staying in a lane, braking, etc. if YOU are not paying attention.
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IMO the eyesight system on my 2022 is quite primitive.
It is fairly dependable on the freeway going in a straight line.
On curves it will try to kill you.
If you’re clipping along at 65mph and suddenly reach a wall of stopped cars, it will try to kill you.
If the sun is shining straight into the cameras, it won’t be dependable. Same for any fog.
They lane centering will sometimes try to “drive by brail” and veer dangerously close to other cars.
It will disengage if you come to a complete stop.
The collision avoidance system only works at speeds less that 15mph and is designed for pedestrians. The system WILL NOT prevent you from driving into a wall.

cheers,
A
I enjoy the humor. It also tries to kill me on curves by braking when I want to accelerate past a car that is leaving the main road. Yet, it did help prevent me today from possibly getting too near the car in front *backending" when it stopped suddenly during a 45 minute backup.
I enjoy the humor. It also tries to kill me on curves by braking when I want to accelerate past a car that is leaving the main road. Yet, it did help prevent me today from possibly getting too near the car in front *backending" when it stopped suddenly during a 45 minute backup.
It also does the opposite, accelerating when the car in front changes lanes but there's a slower or stopped car in front. You have to pay attention.
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True, the point is that these are driver-assists. I'm in control, and it helps me, but, the driver needs to be alert. I would say for me, it has helped 95% and caused 5% problems. But I think it's been better to let it help me, and be aware in the areas where it can cause a problem. If I'm alert, I should be able to anticipate many issues or catch them quickly. It thinks faster than me anyways so it is helpful at alerting to slowing vehicles, etc...
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True, the point is that these are driver-assists. I'm in control, and it helps me, but, the driver needs to be alert. I would say for me, it has helped 95% and caused 5% problems. But I think it's been better to let it help me, and be aware in the areas where it can cause a problem. If I'm alert, I should be able to anticipate many issues or catch them quickly. It thinks faster than me anyways so it is helpful at alerting to slowing vehicles, etc...
Exactly. It worries me how many idiots there are out on the road thinking that these systems are self-driving, after they watched a stunt on YouTube. Hopefully, they will soon be eligible for a Darwin Award and not take anyone else with them.

Another example I experienced was on Pacific Coast Highway here. There are long stretches of highway but there's the occasional stop light. The car in front of me slowed down but then turned right on red, which is allowed here. The ACC then accelerated and would have blown through the red light if I wasn't paying attention.
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in my 2018 trek...it ain't perfect ... but am a BIG fan.
Somewhere someone allegedly wrote that the best safety feature in any car would be a dagger on the steering wheel pointed at the driver...
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Hasn’t tried to kill me, but it’s a pretty terrible implementation of the technology.

IMO Toyoyas safety sense is far superior.
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Hasn’t tried to kill me, but it’s a pretty terrible implementation of the technology.

IMO Toyoyas safety sense is far superior.
What Sube do you have? It's the only system I have experienced so don't know any different. 16 OB and 18 Xtrek. Maybe I have just gotten used to it but feel it is ok. Can you share a feature or two you dislike?
What Sube do you have? It's the only system I have experienced so don't know any different. 16 OB and 18 Xtrek. Maybe I have just gotten used to it but feel it is ok. Can you share a feature or two you dislike?
I’ve got a 2023 Crosstrek Sport and my wife has a Toyota 2020 RAV4, so those are really my only experiences with driver assist. One sentence opinion: “I suspect it boils down to engineering decisions, but the Subaru system seems more passive and the Toyota system is more assertive.”

And the longer version, which I recently pondered in Chicago traffic:

Adaptive Cruise Control: The Subaru has smoother acceleration and braking (after poking around in the settings). The Toyota is a little “jerky,” but redeems itself by being able to hold itself when stopped much longer. From what I understand the Toyota is able to use the electronic parking brake and I really enjoy that in rush hour traffic. I’d say this category is a tie and I use this feature almost every time I’m on the interstate.

Lane assist: Both cars are easily “confused” if the lines on the road aren’t “really good.”

The Subaru is “smoother,” but it regularly beeps and tells me to put my hands on the wheel (when they’re already at 10 and 2”. Hands down my biggest complaint and I seldom use this feature because of the beeping”

The Toyota doesn’t beep nearly as much, but it tends to ping pong around the lane a bit more and is “stronger” when it wants to pull me somewhere. Toyota also seems to handle sweeping curves better.

Collision Prediction: The Subaru seems to be more sensitive to stopped objects, while the Toyota often fails to “see” anything smaller than a dump truck.

Windshield: The Subaru tends to be more sensitive to bird poop or pollen on the windshield and disables the system. I’ve had to hose off the windshield because the system was disabled, twice last month. I honestly don’t recall my wife ever having this issue on the Toyota.

Pretty subjective assessment, but these technologies are still fairly new and I’m certain they’ll be much better in 5-10 years. I leaned to drive when cassette decks were standard, so I was just fine without them.
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The collision avoidance system only works at speeds less that 15mph and is designed for pedestrians. The system WILL NOT prevent you from driving into a wall.
A few years ago I tested the Eyesight on my MY18. Ran at a very big cardboard box set up on my driveway. I have a longish driveway and got up to about 40+ kph. Each time the vehicle stopped before reaching the box. Very violent stop but it worked. I was very impressed. The lane keeping?...not so much. I turned that off first day. I tend to wander a bit and damn car was trying to tell me how to drive.
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