Subaru Crosstrek and XV Forums banner

I have a question about the likelihood of my warranty being voided.

1482 Views 26 Replies 15 Participants Last post by  AstroKats
Hey guys,
2023 crosstrek 2.0l 6mt.
I've had it for a month now. It currently has 4,700 miles on it. I purchased the car with 0 miles.

When I do the first oil change, (After I run out of my 4 free dealer changes). I would like to switch to a 0w30 or 5w30 since I live in central Mississippi. It's hot out here.
It would also make me a little more comfortable with fuel dilution.

Will switching to a quality 0w30 or 5w30 void my warranty? (I use mobil1 in everything else.) I didn't really see any specifics in my manual regarding oil weight.
1 - 20 of 27 Posts
Hey guys,
2023 crosstrek 2.0l 6mt.
I've had it for a month now. It currently has 4,700 miles on it. I purchased the car with 0 miles.

When I do the first oil change, (After I run out of my 4 free dealer changes). I would like to switch to a 0w30 or 5w30 since I live in central Mississippi. It's hot out here.
It would also make me a little more comfortable with fuel dilution.

Will switching to a quality 0w30 or 5w30 void my warranty? (I use mobil1 in everything else.) I didn't really see any specifics in my manual regarding oil weight.
There are hundreds of threads here discussing oil weight (now there's another one, LOL). You'll find a lot of opinions if you try the search feature or look at the list of popular topics.

Your manual should specify the recommended oil weight and what can be used if it's not available in your area. Using a different weight won't void the warranty unless you try something egregiously different from the factory specs.
  • Like
Reactions: 1
I've never heard of the viscosity of the oil being used to void a warranty although I suppose anything is possible. Not at all sure Subaru would be able to prove a viscosity problem unless you were to admit and prove a drastic move on your part. A 0W-30 oil of the API rated type ("SN" for my 2018 Crosstrek) is important and should stay the same even if you adjust the viscosity. You should be fine:
  • Like
  • Helpful
Reactions: 2
Google the magnusson moss warranty act. Voiding your warranty isn't a thing in the US.

And for the record, some US dealerships use 5w30 for everything, so if it caused warranty issues it seems like they'd not use it.
  • Like
Reactions: 3
Google the magnusson moss warranty act. Voiding your warranty isn't a thing in the US.

And for the record, some US dealerships use 5w30 for everything, so if it caused warranty issues it seems like they'd not use it.
Well, there ARE things that can void your warranty. Using an extreme example, if you try to turbocharge the engine and it blows up, Subaru is not going to replace your engine under warranty. Using a different weight oil isn't one of those things.
Well, there ARE things that can void your warranty. Using an extreme example, if you try to turbocharge the engine and it blows up, Subaru is not going to replace your engine under warranty. Using a different weight oil isn't one of those things.
That would be grounds to deny a warranty claim for engine damage. They cannot legally void the whole warranty.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
That would be grounds to deny a warranty claim for engine damage. They cannot legally void the whole warranty.
Correct, they may void the engine warranty if you try to turbocharge it but not the head unit. Seems like a no-brainer to me...
  • Like
Reactions: 1
I suspect that altering the engine with a turbo might impact parts of the warranty beyond the engine, the CVT perhaps, the drive train, other things that might legitimately be considered impacted by the turbo. In extreme examples such as having never changed your oil then it will be fairly obvious when you attempt to have an engine repair done under the warranty and I suspect they can void certain repairs. I looked it up in California and failure to maintain the car is a cause for voiding warranty but I doubt the dealer could prove you are at fault if the difference between changing your oil is at 3 K or 12K. Flooding of the car and other environmental stuff like that appears to be a valid reason for manuf. to void warranties. Racing the car (yeah, what class would we enter the Crosstrek in at Le Mans?) and blowing the engine at a drag race might raise eyebrows at the dealership and I actually know a friend to lost his warranty on his Mazda by racing. I suspect that massive alterations to the suspension or wheels might create problems with bearings and other pieces and might cause dealers to balk. Others have raised the fact that Subaru has towing limits and if you towed 40 foot trailer into the dealership complaining you are having a problem with a burned clutch I doubt the dealer would jump to your assistance.
Pretty stupid, extreme cases. I agree with others that with basic maintenance and without massive obvious alterations I doubt the dealer could try to void the warranty. I know that warranties can be voided in the case of racing.
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 2
I doubt if you had engine problems, they would analyze the oil to see that it is the manufacturer recommended viscosity. Now if you came in with tremendous amounts of sludge in your crankcase as a result of not doing any maintenance, then yes, your engine warranty could be voided. Racing numbers on the side of your car wouldn't be a good look either.
  • Like
Reactions: 1
  • Like
Reactions: 1
Google the magnusson moss warranty act. Voiding your warranty isn't a thing in the US.

And for the record, some US dealerships use 5w30 for everything, so if it caused warranty issues it seems like they'd not use it.
I wonder if you had proof of the dealership using the "wrong" oil you could demand repairs beyond the warranty as the dealer had "damaged" the vehicle by not following proper oil recommendations? If this can be proven perhaps any body who had an hyper aggressive dealer attack their viscosity choice could be silenced by the proof that some dealers use the same/wrong viscosity. Probably never happen. Never heard of a(ny) dealer complain about a driver's multi viscosity oil causing the warranty to be threatened. Having a multi-viscosity lawyer might solve the problem if they tried. Again, the API rating in the little circle, that's probably something we always want to match or use the next highest rating.
If you want to remove all doubt, ask the dealership.
I find this page out of the owners manual helpful.
Note both the NOTEs on the page.
Font Rectangle Parallel Screenshot Monochrome
See less See more
Hey guys,
2023 crosstrek 2.0l 6mt.
I've had it for a month now. It currently has 4,700 miles on it. I purchased the car with 0 miles.

When I do the first oil change, (After I run out of my 4 free dealer changes). I would like to switch to a 0w30 or 5w30 since I live in central Mississippi. It's hot out here.
It would also make me a little more comfortable with fuel dilution.

Will switching to a quality 0w30 or 5w30 void my warranty? (I use mobil1 in everything else.) I didn't really see any specifics in my manual regarding oil weight.
I can't comment on the warranty thing. However, in other parts of the world this same engine is spec'd to use heavier viscosities.

5w30 oils, generally speaking, compared to 0w20, will also have lower NOACK values.

If wanting to run an oil found at big box stores, look into Mobil 1 ESP oils. ESP 5w30 is API SP as well as carries some pretty impressive approvals from MB, BWM, VW and Porsche. It's what I would be running if I didn't decide on HPL.


Rectangle Font Parallel Brand Graphics
See less See more
rtfm, it probably says 5w30 is fine if you don't have 0w30. mine does.

realistically, these engines ran on 5w30 in previous gens and not much has changed since
rtfm, it probably says 5w30 is fine if you don't have 0w30. mine does.

realistically, these engines ran on 5w30 in previous gens and not much has changed since
When was the last time Subaru engines were spec'd for 5W-30? I don't think they have since the EJ engines. I believe the FB engines have always been spec'd for 0W-20.
When was the last time Subaru engines were spec'd for 5W-30? I don't think they have since the EJ engines. I believe the FB engines have always been spec'd for 0W-20.
Do you think it's because of tighter manufacturing tolerances or meeting fuel efficiency standards?
I wonder if you had proof of the dealership using the "wrong" oil you could demand repairs beyond the warranty as the dealer had "damaged" the vehicle by not following proper oil recommendations? If this can be proven perhaps any body who had an hyper aggressive dealer attack their viscosity choice could be silenced by the proof that some dealers use the same/wrong viscosity. Probably never happen. Never heard of a(ny) dealer complain about a driver's multi viscosity oil causing the warranty to be threatened. Having a multi-viscosity lawyer might solve the problem if they tried. Again, the API rating in the little circle, that's probably something we always want to match or use the next highest rating.
Yeah that seems like it would be a tough legal fight. It seems more likely that if you kept arguing with them about it maybe they'd give you something to shut you up.
I have experimented with viscosities in my Subarus and have found that mine are quietest and smoothest using the OEM specified oils... with a caveat to follow.

To explain, I have found variances within the various oils of the specified grade. It's often a return to a brand chosen to be the unrivaled best in my modified turbo Subarus, for within those grades some are almost lethal to such an engine. Of course, Subaru wasn't counting on adding more than 100 extra horsepower either. But I figure if an oil subjected to such abuse retains its ability to do its job then the mundane should be extra easy.

Specific to the OP's question, what the dealer doesn't know, nor can easily determine, is a moral judgement of the owner. The 0W-30 nor the 5W-30 won't make your car asplode... but in my '21 Limited the change back to 0W-20 from those oils resulted in an immediately almost night and day quieter and smoother engine. Made no sense to me because my 3kmi OCIs meant it was hardly used. But then, I'd chosen a 0W-20 of my decades-long favorite oil "brand."

I've ordered a '24 Limited and have already sourced the required 0W-16 for my first oil change in it... by my chosen oil brand. If I had time I'd use it in my '21 despite its 0W-20 recommendation. These new low viscosity oils are FAR better than the uninitiated imagine. So I, personally, won't endorse your proposed decision on oil choice.

YMMV
See less See more
Do you think it's because of tighter manufacturing tolerances or meeting fuel efficiency standards?
Yes.
1 - 20 of 27 Posts
Top