The fact that it was towed away speaks volumes...Comparatively speaking, at 130k, I don’t consider it a big problem, considering that outside of the heat induced CV boot failure, and the wonky blower relay failure, those are the only non-maintenance issues that either car had (and they both had those issues). At 130k with my 2000 Impala, it had two transmissions, a BCU replacement and an upper intake manifold replaced. I was not “unhappy” to see that car towed away.
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Try not to read into the science of the design. With the FBxx they did address the head coolant design, its to be seen down the road if there is an improvement. Things do get fixed.......hahahaaa it took subaru 30 years to finally silence the exhaust heat shields. <or> did they?^^^^ Great reads! Now fast forward to the new redesigned MY18 Crosstrek engine. This talk above about heat zones, not as much block material, flexing etc kinda gives me a queezy feeling about the new design. Are we in for problems down the road? Most of the above is technically out of my wheelhouse, but I understand it enough to be a little leary and watchful. But I'm not as worried about the Trek engine as I was about my MY14 Mustang 5.0. Wanna read some horror stories? Go to the Mustang website and read some of the issues owners had to deal with! As a result, I was fearful at times of cranking the engine wondering if <whatever> was gonna raise its ugly head. Although I personally had no issues with mine after 50K miles, that's one of the reasons I traded it. New car ownership should be worry-free.
Off the Crosstrek trail here, but would our 2014 Outback be included in those heat shield noisy years? Our MY14 engine has been noisy since day 1....not mechanical noise, just loud operation........hahahaaa it took subaru 30 years to finally silence the exhaust heat shields. <or> did they?
Thanks... I didn't write that just found it some time ago thought it would make a good post here. For the amount of boxers that were out there compared to in-lines there sure were a lot of head gasket failures and the science behind the design makes sense as to why.That’s a great read and the technical info seems legit but you lost me when talking about Subaru having to partner with somebody else. Well, they have, since 2005; Toyota. Having had many joint programs, supplier chains and production agreements (Camry and 86, to name two) and with the science behind an in-line 4 hardly being a mystery, if Subaru wanted an in-line, they’d have one.
+1 to rlouie. That’s an old issue. The 251 was well marked with gasket problems, we’re taking 99-05 here. Apparently they reused the EJ25D gasket (96-99) and it just didn’t do the job. With a lot of failures between 03-11,the linked article shows that really well.
I don't think the 2014 Outback (FB25 engine) had the noisy heat shields.Off the Crosstrek trail here, but would our 2014 Outback be included in those heat shield noisy years? Our MY14 engine has been noisy since day 1....not mechanical noise, just loud operation.
EDIT: I've brought this up on the Outback forum and have received no firm answer. That particular forum is the exact opposite of this one. Apparently Outback owners aren't enthused about their cars. Post a question....check back next month. It may or may not be answered. I joined September 2017 and have 12 posts.
Wasn’t sure if you wrote it or not so I tried to keep it neutral. I agree, the boxer is the hallmark of Subaru. To abandon it would be like taking the bars off old glory because it’s historic instead of current.Thanks... I didn't write that just found it some time ago thought it would make a good post here. For the amount of boxers that were out there compared to in-lines there sure were a lot of head gasket failures and the science behind the design makes sense as to why.
I also was thinking about the FB in comparison to the EJ... the FB because of the exhaust manifold/cat it just kills the approach angle, (the nose on these newer Subarus is longer then Penocchos) making the high ground clearance useless when pulling out of my driveway into a small mound of snow left by the citys snow plow. (its another thing that I look for now). My EJ 25 powered 2004 Forester never had that issue, with the stock plastic skid plate it protected everything. Try the same with the Crosstrek it would be in the bodyshop for a new bumper and grill. If Subaru went in-line/transverse front axle (never happen) they would just be another AWD car and except for a few die hard fans they wouldn't sell much. Oh well
...then you’re lucky. Our ‘11 Outback lost a head gasket just under 60,000 miles...it’s not a myth...In my book the head gasket problem is just a myth.Along with my '16 Crosstrek,I still have my '02 Impreza OBS.It has 204k miles and has never had head gasket issues.Besides rusty control arms which were replaced under recall and a rusted subframe which was replaced with the control arms for the cost of the part,it has had no issues at all.If it were real then they would all have issues,which they clearly don't.A head gasket can fail on any engine,at any time,no matter the make,model or year.It's the luck of the draw.