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    Drove 700 miles with mine like this..ZERO issues. most of the time i dont have the basket under the boat and it lays flat on the bars with foam blocks on the bars. I rarely tie down the back at all. I will tie the front down if im driving on the hwy but i love taking back roads so my speeds dont exceed 70-75mph. havent had a problem yet. when i do tie the front down i use my SSD light bar. before that i had hood loops. my boat is 14ft long and i dont have any problems. smaller boats upside down on the roof bars you should be fine.
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    The problem its all good until something happens and then its not good anymore, in between the two can pass 1 day or 10 years. Tiedowns at the ends are there to stop the hull from sliding forward and back (think braking suddenly) and to help the straps on the roofrack securing the boat. They also help in crosswinds, even with shorter boats as there isn't much distance between the bars. Its belt and suspenders but in several cases its needed to have both. Only the roofracks straps arent just insufficient in certain situations, they are bad for the hull if you have to tie them down too much. Thats without mentioning the ones that had the whole roofrack ripping off and flying away tied to the boat (and not crappy brands)...
    Two end tiedowns are cheap insurance, if not for the driver for everyone else in the street (in principle I could care less of what other people do, I just dont want other people's stuff on my car)
    Why getting into this, not sure the insurance companies wouldnt want their money back from the driver:
    http://www.ajc.com/videos/news/kayak...g-crash/vzBS5/
    And if one would not care about the whole issue of ruining the boat, or damaging other people cars etc there is always the "insecure load" thing: if the poopoo see no end lines on a boat and want to drop responsibility on you they are gonna use that against you, be it because an accident happened or just because who stopped needs a whatever reason to drop a ticket to reach their cough...quota...cough
    This was some years back, no end lines visible (granted they could have been attached to loops that got ripped off the deck but pics of the car didnt show them either):
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnhorserider View Post
    Attachment 219994 Quick and easy.
    That what i went with. Saw it from another crosstrek forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mi.cheng89 View Post
    You should have a tow hook next to your spare tire, use that for a tie down in the rear. Here's a picture of where it should go
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    I read somewhere that its only use for emergency situation.

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    Once I hauled a 17' canoe for several hundred miles on on top of the Crosstrek. Front tie point was a vertical support access through the lower bumper trim.

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    Rear tie down was the rear hitch which also supported a "canoe loader", an adjustable T-bar that pivots.

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    I experienced some brutal winds on that trip, heading from the Los Angeles area through the high desert to the Colorado River. What I didn't have and really needed was some brackets for keeping the canoe from twisting sideways on the crossbars in high crosswinds. I do have some Yakima canoe brackets made for round bars but they wouldn't fit the Thule aero bars I have on the Crosstrek and I'm not sure that Thule makes a comparable product for aero blade type crosss bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XVCrosstrekSTI View Post
    I read somewhere that its only use for emergency situation.
    Incorrect information. It can be used during "emergency" situations, such as getting your car pulled out of a ditch by a tow truck. Since it threads into the bumper (subframe?), it's designed to pull the weight of the car. No issue using it for a kayak tie-down point; it's probably the safest way to do that.

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    I bought an extra tow hook at the dealer and use them front and rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Waters View Post
    What I didn't have and really needed was some brackets for keeping the canoe from twisting sideways on the crossbars in high crosswinds.
    If, for the bow and stern lines, you have two attachment points each at the car (so both ends have lines that look like a Λ ) the canoe will stay put even in the worse crosswinds. There is a lot of leverage on the brackets at the bars, the lines instead have less difficulties since they tie the ends. (mine is an 18ft cedarstrip and in very bad wind I can see one line tensioning and the other slacking a bit but it stays dead centre on the car)
    Try to not wrap the lines around the bumpers, they dont like that, in any car, it tends to pull the plastic bumper up.
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