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    Quote Originally Posted by coletrain View Post
    Light bulb threads...I tried it once. They never end well. You're either Johnny Brightlights or Captain McBlinding Drivers. Good luck to all. LOL
    So true. I was down in my garage when you posted. I had to post the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZYHAWK View Post
    So true. I was down in my garage when you posted. I had to post the results.

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    Wow quit the hypothosis. So let me ask then where does the extra energy come from to ignite the arc? Digital only describes how the ballast regulates the power, it doesn't magically make the arc take any less energy to start and maintain. I've talked to several people in the industry and everyone of them agrees that you need more energy (amps) to assist in the ignition of the arc. But hey, you bought plug and play HIDs so clearly I should trust your judgement, lol

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    E = VOLTS
    I = AMPS
    R = RESISTANCE
    E = I x R
    POWER = E x I = (I x I) x R = ( E x E) / R
    ENERGY = POWER x TIME
    POWER = ENERGY / TIME

    A high voltage is needed to start a current flowing. There is high resistance in the bulb when cold. The salts in the bulb start to vaporize causing the resistance to drop. Less voltage is needed as this process continues. I read that 20,000 volts are needed to start the current and 22 volts will keep a hot bulb lit.
    It doesn't need a lot of energy to light the bulb, only high voltage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZYHAWK View Post
    E = VOLTS
    I = AMPS
    R = RESISTANCE
    E = I x R
    POWER = E x I = (I x I) x R = ( E x E) / R
    ENERGY = POWER x TIME
    POWER = ENERGY / TIME

    A high voltage is needed to start a current flowing. There is high resistance in the bulb when cold. The salts in the bulb start to vaporize causing the resistance to drop. Less voltage is needed as this process continues. I read that 20,000 volts are needed to start the current and 22 volts will keep a hot bulb lit.
    It doesn't need a lot of energy to light the bulb, only high voltage.
    It seems you are a bit confused so I will break it down for you with a picture. Yes the bulb requires a tremendous amount of voltage to create the arc, similar to a taser its high voltage but low amps. What I'm talking about is before the ballast, the vehicles power system is only ever delivery power at 12-15v, the only variable for the ballast to grab more power is to up its amperage pull. That is what I'm referring to.

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    I'm not an EE. My thinking is when the low beams are turned on, a capacitor in the ignitor is charged. It acts as a battery. It only takes a fraction of a second to start the ignition. The capacitor gets discharged into a transformer raising the voltage. The high energy takes place between the ignitor and the bulb. The Crosstrek wiring doesn't see a large amperage pull.
    I'm now going to replace the 30 amp fuse with a 7.5 amp one. Later today I'll have the result.


    [QUOTE=scubaru89;1559746]It seems you are a bit confused so I will break it down for you with a picture. Yes the bulb requires a tremendous amount of voltage to create the arc, similar to a taser its high voltage but low amps. What I'm talking about is before the ballast, the vehicles power system is only ever delivery power at 12
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    Spark plugs need high voltage to ignite the fuel air mixture. There is dwell, time to charge the primary side of the coil.

    POWER = ENERGY / TIME

    Shorten the time and power increases.

    For the 7.5 amp results;
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    Simple fix if you believe the millisecond of extra power will harm the factory wiring. I have run HIDs in every vehicle I have owned in the last 12 years. Every one of them had this harness. Not 1 issue. Also, ballasts do have capacitors which help offset the initial current draw. The key here is the duration of the arc, which is very short


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    Thank you Fishhunter.


    [QUOTE=Fishhunter911;1560218]Simple fix if you believe the millisecond of extra power will harm the factory wiring. I have run HIDs in every vehicle I have owned in the last 12 years. Every one of them had this harness. Not 1 issue. Also, ballasts do have capacitors which help offset the initial current draw. The key here is the duration of the arc, which is very short


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